In the podcast “Your Trash – Your Future” hosts Debra Wold and Stuart Turley discuss the potential of transforming waste into valuable resources like low-cost electricity and fuel. They envision a world where landfills are obsolete, and trash is converted into sustainable energy. The conversation highlights the importance of innovative technologies, market viability without subsidies, and the broader implications of converting waste—including personal and societal “trash”—into treasures. They emphasize fostering creativity and practical solutions, advocating for education that supports these innovative approaches.
Highlights of the Podcast
00:17 – Greetings and Podcast Theme
01:43 – Vision for Your Trash – Your Future
02:13 – Various Forms of Trash
03:13 – Municipal Benefits
05:25 – Technology Behind the Process
07:10 – Addressing Renewable Energy Waste
09:05 – Importance of Creativity and Innovation
10:24 – Market Viability and Subsidies
16:49 – Challenges in the Education System
17:22 – Meaning Behind GreneLily
19:11 – Closing Remarks
Debra Wold – Host [00:00:08] Thank you so much again for tuning in. My name is Debra Wold and I’m so pleased to have Stuart Turley from Energy News three. He is my co-host and we are honored to have you. Thank you so much, Stuart.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:00:17] Well, thanks for letting me jump back in today. I am so excited about trash and treasure and, debris for your listeners. You have been a hit on the energy news. You are a rock star, so thank you for letting me just stop in.
Debra Wold – Host [00:00:33] Oh, it is my honor. And I’m so grateful to have you, Stuart. You have so much insight and understanding about the natural resources oil, gas, all of the spaces, and it marries perfectly well what we’re going to be talking about today. I want to share with you a little bit about where we want to take this podcast, trash to Treasure. We’re going to start out about what our vision is. What if you could envision a world, Stuart, where all the trash that is being transported through landfills and to transfer stations in our back yard could be turned into products like low cost electricity and low cost fuel. What kind of world would we live in? There would be no more trash building up in the oceans. There’d be no more trash building up in our landfills. Our children would not have to deal with the toxins that come from all this trash. But yet our reserves should be filled with proper fuel. We would be working with the oil companies and the gas companies. Everybody can work together in a utopia, we would think. But there is a way of making this happen, right? We don’t have rainbows and unicorns, but we do have trash. And people don’t understand that that trash really is treasure. What’s your thoughts on that, Stewart?
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:01:45] I’m going to use that quote. We don’t have, we don’t have rainbows and unicorns, but we have trash. Holy smokes, Deborah, what a great line.
Debra Wold – Host [00:01:57] Thank you.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:01:58] Oh, you know, and and taking trash to treasure. But, yes, you and I have talked trash to treasure. Could be your plastic water bottles, but it can also be your personal feelings. And it could be your college campus. Right?
Debra Wold – Host [00:02:15] Absolutely. So, you know, in regards to that, what’s happening right now, trash is in so many different forms is ideology. And what we’re doing is we’re taking trash and we’re turning it into something that is beneficial. Why are landfills beneficial? Because that’s all we know, right? But they’re not beneficial. Why are schools being told to do certain things? Teach our children certain things. But that’s not always beneficial. The thing about trash can come in many different forms, and what we’re talking about today specifically is going to be the trash that’s out there in our backyard plastics, tires, construction waste, invisible, solid waste, food waste, things like that. All those are valuable to someone like us because we got the technology partner who knows how to transform that into a beautiful treasure at a low cost.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:03:14] You know what? One of the things that you were just a rock star on on my show? Yeah. Is that, it’s been over a year, and you’re still in our one of our top producing, listen, episodes, which is so cool because your excitement and knowledge of taking renewable energy. Let’s take renewable natural gas. Let’s take, treasure in, the the landfills. How many cities or state need money in order to function? Oh, let’s turn revenue. Yes. Slash into revenue for cities.
Debra Wold – Host [00:03:55] Exactly. And that’s the key thing that we’re talking about right now. Like you stated very clearly, how many municipalities, how many counties, how many towns have trash. What is it? 7 pounds per person per year or something along that line? All that trash that’s collected.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:04:10] Wow.
Debra Wold – Host [00:04:11] Can be turned into something beneficial for the community. It’s going to be helping in so many ways. It produces a revenue and we’re not hurting the hauling companies at all. God bless the hauling companies. I will not trash my car, you know, to some location. Hauling companies have a purpose and a reason they are beneficial. So we’re not trying to come against the holding companies.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:04:33] The hauling companies, as you described, debris are the like the, trash companies, you know, out of The Sopranos. Is that right?
Debra Wold – Host [00:04:42] Well I us say yes. So. Yeah.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:04:47] Okay. I just go because, trash companies are important.
Debra Wold – Host [00:04:52] They’re extremely important. They’re like the middleman. Let us say that. Right. They pick it up from us. They’re the middleman. They transport it to the next location. And they also provide jobs for the union. So there’s a benefit. Gotta put food on the table. Everybody does too. But what if that trash wasn’t going to an empty, old, nasty little landfill or big landfill? Right. And that trash is going into facility that can be processed through. And you can get green electricity, sustainable long term green electricity. And you could also get low sulfur fuels, low cost fuels.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:05:26] Wow.
Debra Wold – Host [00:05:27] And beautiful thing is municipalities, counties and towns, they can all participate in that because they’ve got the land in their backyard. Right. All we need is for politicians and people, our patrons, to see the value add in this technology. And it’s not something that’s new. District 12 technology’s been around for decades, since World War two. Right. What they did, they took coal. They burned it. They put fuel on things.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:05:54] This sounds too good to be true. Deborah.
Debra Wold – Host [00:05:57] Are we sure that all the time. But see, the thing is this. The brilliant person who patented the process. Technology’s always been around for a long, long, long time. Just like a celebration. What, 60, 70 years? But the man who went behind the curtain and took the time to get the cross is Patton. That’s the key. He is the man behind the curtain with the golden key. And the beautiful thing about him. We’re going to be having him on a podcast. We’re gonna probably be having series of him coming on the podcast and talking about his technology, and we’re going to be promoting his technology, and that’s what we do. We go around and we talk to individuals, municipalities, counties, you name it. And we say there is an alternative to landfills. Yes, we want a partner.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:06:46] And also far reaching. Is this because one of my biggest heart burns with the renewable space right now is the inability of recycling, solar panels or recycling windmills or anything else. How far wide? Because we know trash. When you burn trash, we gotta catch grit and a brute force. Is that the way to describe that brute force burning.
Debra Wold – Host [00:07:10] Everything in there?
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:07:11] No, no.
Debra Wold – Host [00:07:12] Bad. That’s incineration. Right? Incineration is at Mesquite Mounds with 20 degree Fahrenheit degrees. Something like that. Right?
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:07:20] Right.
Debra Wold – Host [00:07:21] This is different. This is breaking the molecules apart. That’s where I’m gonna have the patent law. Talk about his technology. He did it. So it’s zero emission zero carbon footprint now. And when it’s going through that process, you don’t need these monster scrubbers, right? You need a simple system that’s put in place. Let’s talk about those windmills. What are in those windmills? Those blades have what? Fiber count? What’s. I can’t remember the word right now, but they have different elements in there that are carbon based. Right, right. All you gotta do is put them in a crusher. Cut them down to size, stick them in the crusher, and we can use that. Anything that’s carbon based can be made out of. Make you.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:08:00] A lot of you can recycle windmill blades.
Debra Wold – Host [00:08:05] Yes, yes. I cannot remember the word. I’ll have to write that down sometime.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:08:09] Wow, that is huge. Because that is one of the biggest things besides killing of eagles, killing of cats, killing of whales. They are not recyclable. And when you’re trying to do the land reclamation, which is a huge hot button, right, we’ve got wind, we’ve got landfills of these things that are coming around. This is.
Debra Wold – Host [00:08:35] Huge. It is it’s you. That’s the problem. We always are trying to bury a problem, right? Nobody wants to come up with a solution. And this man did, I mean, okay, trash, what do we do with our trash? We can burn it. Incinerate. But then all these toxins come out of it. Right. Bad idea. Well, it was a good idea, like, first, but then it turned bad. Okay, we bought it to make electricity. Okay? They’re doing that. They’re the countries. We do it here. Right? But here’s the thing that gets me, Stewart.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:09:04] What’s that?
Debra Wold – Host [00:09:05] It goes back to our children. We are not allowing creativity, new ideas to be projected into what’s happening. No, everybody’s like status quo. We only know this. We only know that. Oh, that can’t happen. That’s impossible. Right? We stifled ourselves into being creative, having ideas and thoughts outside of the norm, thinking outside the box, for heaven’s sakes.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:09:30] Well.
Debra Wold – Host [00:09:32] This is what we got to get back to. This is what this man did, he said. Boom. I got all the knowledge. I know that this technology exists, right?
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:09:41] Right.
Debra Wold – Host [00:09:41] There’s a calcification that’s been on for decades. But I’m going to take it a step farther. I’m going to build the Ford engine. I’m going to take this baton here, this part in here, put it together. Then I’m going to plant my whole entire Ford engine and make it mine. Right. That’s what he did. Big part in the process.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:09:58] Wow. This is pretty darn cool, and one of the biggest resounding pieces of feedback from your, podcast interviews over a year ago was, the fact that it is market ready, profitable without subsidy. What?
Debra Wold – Host [00:10:26] See the thing, Stuart. See? Why are we subsidizing? Let’s say you’re in university. Students must pay for the college. Why subsidize you? You go to college to learn. You learn a skill. You learn a talent. You learn something, right?
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:10:40] Right.
Debra Wold – Host [00:10:41] Why do we the people have to subsidize you? Get out there and work for yourselves. If a market does not. Okay. My philosophy has always been this. When you’re in the market and you come up with an idea or invention, whatever it is, throw it in the market. And if the market, meaning the people like it, they’re gonna buy it. And it will be successful based upon its own merits. Right. But you have to be subsidized. You have to build it up because it’s really crap. I’m sorry. Bad things that you’re making, right? Right. Someone buying it. It’s like the Chinese stuff. No disrespect towards them, but the junk you bought it. Dollar store. It breaks within 10s.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:11:20] Wow.
Debra Wold – Host [00:11:21] I buy it. Right. I want something that is not subsidized. Because I know that I will see that the market is what makes the decision whether it’s successful or not. Not on subsidies which are under government, but.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:11:35] For you, whole podcast is going to be about taking trash to treasure. Yes, it’s true, treasure can be, broken windmill trash can be, broken lives.
Debra Wold – Host [00:11:49] You know? You betcha.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:11:50] I, you and I have had some fabulous conversations about broken lives. Faith. So you can take, broken lives in faith. Yeah. Also got things like homeschooling and, you know, schools and universities. So any trash, can be taken to a treasure. Is that if you’re.
Debra Wold – Host [00:12:12] Absolutely, 100%. Absolutely. One of the things I just started changing my daughter’s homeschool program. And the reason why I’m tired of her being, you know, forced to accept the non norm. I’m sorry. Solar, wind, hydrothermal. They’re not the name of the game. What about nuclear? What about natural gas? I mean, why are they being forced and this curriculum when they shouldn’t be them? And why are we squelching putting them behind a desk for eight hours a day? Put them in a position, for heaven’s sakes. You know the other thing? I wrote a book. They were saying that when a child spends more than four hours behind a computer, their brain becomes tunnel vision. They can’t have a vision outside. What happens when you’ve got kids behind the desk for eight hours? Now they get computers, right? And I know we’re supporter. So we’re putting our children in prison. Don’t look out that window and see. Oh, wow. It’s a beautiful sky. I wonder if one day I’ll be able to fly an airplane or whatever it may be. Whatever invention we can come up with.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:13:12] Right?
Debra Wold – Host [00:13:13] We’re hurting our children from having any ideals for the future. And there’s a few people at the top are saying, you do this. You do that. You’ll get subsidized here if you obey the rules.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:13:24] Right. Well, I.
Debra Wold – Host [00:13:25] Wash my hands of that, my friend. We’re going to bring back the homeschool programs in a way where they’re getting proper curriculum on energy and on gas, and how this world should function. That’s my vision.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:13:39] I think. For one of your podcasts, you could interview Mike Rowe. I think Mike Rowe would be. Absolutely, because he is such a class act in trying to get young people to jobs. I think he would be a phenomenal person for you to interview.
Debra Wold – Host [00:13:57] I’m love that. You just we were not giving our children the space. Like I asked my daughter last night, we’re reading this book, right? I said, how do you are you great at math? She says, no, but if I don’t do math the way they want me to do math, they’ll fail me. I said, well, what’s failure? You should never be failed because as long as you try, you’re succeeding. And, not participation trophy. But she has to give to photography. She has taken pictures of churches and outside, and people are posting them on their websites because she’s that good. And she was like ten, 11 years old when she was doing it.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:14:31] Isn’t that great?
Debra Wold – Host [00:14:33] I said, well, then go do it. Here’s a camera. Be free. You know, we stay in the car sometimes and we’re traveling. And she’s like, oh, she’ll look in the sky and she’ll put this imagery together. And when she’s done, it’s miraculous. It’s like, But that’s the gift that she’s been given. And that’s what she needs to grow with.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:14:54] You know when when I’m older than Moses. Moses and I are buddies, by the way. When I went to high school, I got the ability to go through woodshop, welding, photography, and thoroughly enjoyed all the photography and everything else. The New York schools were so good that I didn’t have to even study the first two years while I was at Oklahoma State. And so there were some really good thing. And it’s a shame that the public school systems have not done and not gone that way.
Debra Wold – Host [00:15:33] Well, the interesting thing about this book, the gentleman says teachers are not trained. They the ideology that they have now, that’s not what they learned in school, going to their babysitting. They’ve got people coming in that have no manners, no discipline, no nothing. So you get a class of 30 kids, right? The teachers are more babysitters and they are actually doing their job. There’s a few students that percolate throughout there that possibly want to learn. But how can you learn when you got several students out here screaming and yelling and having fits because they don’t want to do anything? And then you have the entitles and then you have the trophy. People that want everybody participation trophy. They’re more like running a circus than they are in the classrooms than they are on, you know what they’ve been taught. A lot of my friends are like, I can’t do this anymore. They’re getting out.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:16:17] Right.
Debra Wold – Host [00:16:18] And what I’m telling them is like, go into the home schools, start writing curriculum, start going after that, because parents are now stepping to the plate and say, enough. My child’s being traumatized because they’re not allowed to learn. They’re being put in a situation where they’re kind of being forced to do things they don’t want to do, or say stupid things they don’t want to say. Right. And the thing is that now the homeschooling gives them an opportunity to one on 1 or 5 on one, whatever the situation may be, and they can learn better.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:16:51] So trash to treasure means not only trash in waste plastic bottles, you know, it means, also personal life. It means also processes in society. Boy, this opens up a whole wild west. How do we call this? Because your website, green lily energy and water.com. But how do we go from, you know, trash to treasure to solving the world’s problems?
Debra Wold – Host [00:17:25] Well, think about green Lily, right? They sit on a lily. Lily. Right. And sometimes Lily is actually those kind of lily. Such over 1000 different Lily’s number one. Yeah. When they student under Lily power, they absorbed the bacteria and everything else around them. And it goes into the pad, but not the lily. The lily always stays pure and white on the top.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:17:45] It’s.
Debra Wold – Host [00:17:45] A kind of like a filter. Yeah. So a lot of times in different countries, like Asia, they’ll have different lily pads all over the place, and they’ll use them to absorb the bacterias and all the different elements that are in that are not healthy. But the the lily is strong enough, it’s endurance level to be able to filter everything.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:18:03] Wow.
Debra Wold – Host [00:18:05] The water would be where it sits upon. Sure it’s you, right? It can be God. It can be a Holy Spirit and give you whatever. And the lily represents purity. So in essence, our company comes in. Whether it’s wet trash. This is all coming to my mind, thank God, whether it’s with politics or whether it’s with children, whether it’s with the narrative going on nowadays, and we’ll stop the impurities and takes all that nastiness out so that the water becomes clear and we can think again. We’ve got to have clear mind and clear thought process, because we’re not able to do it when we’re clustered. Right? Right. A city, a family situation. It’s like toxins in the water. And you’re like, trying to figure it out completely on top of that thing, on that lily palate. Right. And that it absorbed the toxins, but still stands firm. And when the water has been purified, you’re able to see things clearly.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:19:05] Well, that certainly makes a lot of sense.
Debra Wold – Host [00:19:09] That’s all I can think really?
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:19:11] Well, for episode number one. I sure had a lot of fun.
Debra Wold – Host [00:19:15] Me too. Thank you.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:19:17] Well, there’s your show.
Debra Wold – Host [00:19:19] Oh, yes.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:19:21] That’s that, that’s Stuart.
Debra Wold – Host [00:19:22] Thank you so much for stopping by. It was a pleasure talking with you. We always look forward to having fun. You have a couple of giggles here and there, but also two. We learn a lot from each other. Like iron sharpens iron. So we’re learning these from each other.
Stuart Turley – Co-Host [00:19:35] Absolutely. I look forward to the next episode.
Debra Wold – Host [00:19:38] Me too. Thank you again, sir, and have a wonderful day.